And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Wright designed a "hybrid" structure that combined load sharing as a try to lessen cost/streamline (all this IIRC). It needed extensive rebuild, also. In Madison, Ohio.
There's another different structure, no problems, in the same county that was/ is? a short term rental. In Willoughby Hills, Ohio, Penfield House.
Cantilevers are fine as long as the beams are designed for the bending load and the other end is properly installed. The problem was FLW was a brilliant designer but his structural engineer didn't appear to have enough input into his designs, especially for Falling Water.
Actually, that how you DO get leaks. Pre-stressed concrete has seams, which can leak. To avoid leaks entirely you need to do cast in place concrete. Then it is all one piece, not possible to leak.
That doesn't look like Falling Water to me - and it's in southern Pennsylvania. FLW gets a lot of visionary credit for designing structures that would grow into their location and make terrific style when they got to be a few decades old, but pretty much all of the FLW homes I've read about or visited are maintenance nightmares.
Overexposed, underinsulated, inherently unsecure, wastefully profligate with energy cost, and worst of all, simply mid-century fugly. The architect should have been buried under the foundation, and since he's certainly dead now, his body should be disinterred, cremated, and the ashes scattered at sea with no trace nor note. Then burn down whatever school of architecture he graduated from, for good measure.
It's nice but not for me. I am a Craftsman style home body.
ReplyDeleteThat was when Falling Water was still in good shape. A quick search and you can read about what it took to finally reinforce the structure properly.
ReplyDeleteWright designed a "hybrid" structure that combined load sharing as a try to lessen cost/streamline (all this IIRC). It needed extensive rebuild, also. In Madison, Ohio.
DeleteThere's another different structure, no problems, in the same county that was/ is? a short term rental. In Willoughby Hills, Ohio, Penfield House.
That first sentence doesn't make sense.
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ReplyDeletefirst thing i thought was”dont stand under the overhang”
no visible means of support.
Cantilevers are fine as long as the beams are designed for the bending load and the other end is properly installed. The problem was FLW was a brilliant designer but his structural engineer didn't appear to have enough input into his designs, especially for Falling Water.
DeleteThat's why it pays to be both, I am.
DeleteBrief rule of thumb: you can cantilever 1/3 of the span, usually with no problem.
No worries about roof leaks with 6 inches of pre stressed concrete
ReplyDeleteActually, that how you DO get leaks. Pre-stressed concrete has seams, which can leak. To avoid leaks entirely you need to do cast in place concrete. Then it is all one piece, not possible to leak.
DeleteThat doesn't look like Falling Water to me - and it's in southern Pennsylvania. FLW gets a lot of visionary credit for designing structures that would grow into their location and make terrific style when they got to be a few decades old, but pretty much all of the FLW homes I've read about or visited are maintenance nightmares.
ReplyDeleteOverexposed, underinsulated, inherently unsecure, wastefully profligate with energy cost, and worst of all, simply mid-century fugly.
ReplyDeleteThe architect should have been buried under the foundation, and since he's certainly dead now, his body should be disinterred, cremated, and the ashes scattered at sea with no trace nor note.
Then burn down whatever school of architecture he graduated from, for good measure.
I don't like the style but it has enough glass I could grow some vegetables.
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